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Sunday, September 8, 2013

Bandit Chain & Sprocket Replacement

Aug 31, 2013

I hadn't changed the chain & sprocket set on the Bandit since before the Alaska trip 33,000 miles ago so it was overdue.

It is not difficult but there are a lot of steps to follow.

Supplies
  • Sprockets:  15T front/45T rear for stock gearing.  I usually use SunStar steel sprockets but I cheaped out and bought a pair of JT sprockets this time.  SunStar seems to provide a bit better fit and I'll probably switch back.
  • Chain:  110 link 530 chain.  I'm using a D.I.D 530VX as the D.I.D O Ring Professional chains I've always used seem to be discontinued.
  • Front sprocket lock ring, Suzuki part # 09167-25019
  • Axle grease
  • Contact cleaner
  • WD-40
  • Kerosene and cleaning brushes
  • Medium (blue) thread lock
  • length of twine or cable tie
  • wood block or other rear wheel support
Tools
  • Chain breaker:  I use a Motion-Pro Jumbo Chain tool
  • 9/16" and 13/16" wrenches for chain tool
  • Angle grinder for grinding off chain pin
  • Safety glasses
  • 32mm socket for front sprocket nut
  • 24mm socket for rear axle nut
  • 1/2" and 3/8" drive torque wrenches
  • 12mm and 10mm wrenches for chain adjustment
  • 12mm and 14mm sockets and wrenches for rear brake, torque arm, sprocket nuts, etc.
  • large flat screwdriver or chisel
  • large philips screwdriver
  • small hammer
  • needle nose pliars
  • 5mm and 6mm hex sockets
JT sprocket set and lock ring
D.I.D 530VX chain
Removal

Put the bike in 1st gear while still on its side stand.  Note the placement of the clamp that attaches the shift rod to the shift shaft.  Use a permanent marker or white-out if needed.  Then remove the clamp bolt and pull the clamp off of the shift shaft.

Remove the front sprocket cover hex bolts making note of the position of each bolt.  They are all different lengths.  My suggestion is to measure each and draw a diagram.  The Bandit has a hydraulic clutch and it is not necessary to detach the clutch line and drain the fluid.  Just tie the sprocket cover to the frame or passenger peg with string or a cable tie leaving the cable attached.

Apply WD-40 to the sprocket counter shaft to loosen any thread lock.


Remove the speedometer sensor bolt and remove the sensor.


With a small hammer and chisel, bend back the front sprocket nut lock washer.  Then remove the sprocket nut with the 32mm socket.  May be necessary to apply rear brake.


Remove the rear axle cotter pin, then remove the rear axle nut with the 24mm socket.  At this point the bike can be put on the center stand.  Remove the chain guard.


Put on safety glasses.  Grind off one chain pin, not a master link pin, with the angle grinder.  Keep flammable materials away as there can be a lot of sparks.




Use the chain tool to push the ground pin through the chain and break it.  Use the press pin and no base plate.



Loosen the chain adjustment lock nuts on each side, then screw the chain adjusters all the way into the swingarm.  On the right side of the bike remove the bolts that attach the rear brake to the right side wheel spacer, and loosen the nut and bolt that attach the rear brake torque arm to the caliper.  Move the rear caliper out of the way.  Support the rear wheel with wood blocks and carefully pull the rear axle from the right side, noting the positions of all the spacers and chain adjustment blocks.  Pull the rear wheel out from the left side of the bike.



At this point the front sprocket area can be cleaned.  I used kerosene and a tooth brush to loosen up all the tar and old chain lube, then sprayed with contact cleaner to wash it off.  It was a real mess in there.



Next, remove the rear sprocket from the rear wheel and clean the wheel up.  It was also quite a mess.


While the rear brake caliper is free it is a good idea to check the wear on the rear brake pads.

As part of the cleaning process I lightly scrub the rear brake rotor with Mr. Clean Magic Eraser pads in a crosshatch pattern (trick learned from BARF).  The rear brakes on my Bandit are pretty awful so I don't really know if it helps.

Reassembly

Note:  It is highly recommended to clean all nuts, bolts, threads, assorted spacers and other fasteners with kerosene, and dry them, before reassembly. 

Push the new front sprocket onto the counter shaft with the markings facing outward.


I had a lot of trouble with the JT 513 this time.  I've run this sprocket before and never had a problem so I don't know what the issue was.  I ended up going to the Suzuki shop to try and get a SunStar or Afam.  They didn't have one so I had to make due.  I put axle grease all over the counter shaft and the inner sprocket gears and eventually it went on, but not without more force than what I thought should be necessary.  Hopefully it won't be a nightmare to remove it next time.

Put the lock washer onto the counter shaft with the flange facing outward.  Then tighten the sprocket nut as much as possible.  It will not be possible to fully torque it down without the new chain.  Note that the manual calls for thread lock on the counter shaft threads.


Next, bolt the rear sprocket onto the rear wheel using a star pattern to tighten the bolts in stages, sprocket markings facing outward.  This is kind of tricky because the bolts are loose and will want to fall down into the wheel.  The wheel mount can be separated from the rear wheel by pulling on it, which will make this easier although I didn't have to.  Torque the sprocket nuts to 37 ft/lbs, or 44 ft/lbs depending on which year the bike is.  When in doubt do not over tighten.  Note that the manual calls for thread lock on the sprocket bolts.

Clean and re-grease the rear axle, then mount the rear wheel by setting it on wood blocks and carefully threading the axle through with all the spacers.  It should not be necessary to force the axle.  Thread the new chain through its path.


Grease the master link and 4 o-rings using the white grease supplied with the new chain.  Then put two of the o-rings onto the master link pins and thread the master link through the two pin holes from the back.  Apply the remaining 2 o-rings to the pins sticking through the outer side of the chain, then manually press the master link plate onto the pins.

Remove the press pin from the chain tool, then insert the press plate and no base plate at the bottom.


Clamp down on the master link with the chain tool, just enough so there is enough master link pin showing to rivet.  It is important not to over tighten the master link.

Next, remove the press plate from the chain tool and put the rivet attachment at the top and the rivet anvil at the bottom.


Clamp down on each master link pin with the chain tool until each pin has a nice flanged appearance.  Do not clamp down too hard or the pin may be damaged.


Initial Chain Adjustment

Making sure the rear axle and axle nut threads are clean, attach the adjustment block and axle washer, then spin on the rear axle nut finger tight.  Using the chain adjustment nuts do an initial coarse adjustment.  Apply a little tension to the chain adjusters on each side, just enough so the chain is not loose and floppy.  The rear caliper can be reattached at this time.  Torque the caliper bolts to 18 ft/lbs and the torque arm bold to 26 ft/lbs.

Using the marks on each side of the swingarm as a rough guide, tighten each side evenly until there is about 1" freeplay at the loosest part of the chain under the swingarm.  Tighten down the axle nut a turn and make sure there is still an inch of free play at the lowest point of the chain.

The bike can be lowered onto the side stand at this time.  Torque the front sprocket nut to 85 ft/lbs.  It may be necessary to apply the rear brake.  Bend the lock washer with a small hammer and chisel to keep the sprocket nut in place.


Replace the speedometer sensor nut and torque to 9 ft/lbs (115 in/lbs).  Note that thread lock is called for by the manual.  Also note that Clymer has two different torque specs for this bolt, one in Ch 7 (15 ft/lbs) and the other in Ch 10 (115 in/lbs).  Best not to over torque.


Replace the sprocket cover and tighten the bolts finger-tight + 1/4 turn.  Reattach the clamp onto the shift shaft at its original position and tighten the bolt finger tight + 1/4 turn.


Final Chain Adjustment

Shift the bike into neutral.  Loosen the rear axle nut, then lift the bike back onto the center stand.  Ensure all the following conditions are met:
  • Ensure the chain slack is approximately 1" at the loosest point under the swingarm.
  • The adjustment blocks should be equal distance from the end of the swingarm on each side.
  • Sight down the chain's upper travel path while slowly rotating the wheel counter-clockwise (normal forward direction), and be sure it appears to be even and straight throughout the entire length of the chain.

  • The chain should travel without resistance in any part of the travel path.  Make sure the chain does not touch the rear tire at any point.
  • The chain slack should be an even 1" at the measurement point at all points on the chain as it rotates.
At this time any number of more involved chain adjustment methods can be undertaken, such as the use of a laser sight or the string method.  I typically use a ruler to measure the distance between the adjustment blocks and the end of the swingarm, but otherwise do not put a lot of effort into making the adjustment perfect.  As long as the criteria above are met it should be safe for a test ride.

Tighten the chain adjustment lock nuts, then torque the rear axle to 74 ft/lbs.  Use a new cotter pin and bend it so it doesn't move.  Re-check the chain slack one last time.


Reattach the chain guard, then go for a short test ride.  Check sprocket nuts for tightness.

All done!


Saturday, July 21, 2012

Gear Oil is Crappy Chain Lube

Some old-timers and a few Honda manuals don't believe in using this newfangled stuff called chain lube.  They insist good ol' 90-weight gear oil is what God intended for your chain and anything else is just paying for marketing.

Since gear oil costs about half what a can of chain lube costs this was an intriguing notion, so I went to the local O'Reilly Auto Parts and picked up a bottle of 85w-140 gear oil for about $5.50.  I cleaned my chain like usual, waited for the kerosene to dry, and oiled the insides of the rollers, carefully wiping the excess from the bottom of the chain.  I rotated the rear wheel a few times and noted there was hardly any chain noise which I interpreted as a good sign.

The next day I did my 30-mile commute and parked at work.  When I went out a few hours later to cover the bike I was surprised at what I saw.


Not only had a lot of it flung off but what was left was dripping all over the place and making a mess under the bike.  I'm willing to put up with some fling in return for added chain life, and it seems like the better chain lubes I've used are the messier ones.  But this was worse than I've ever seen.  By the time I got home the chain felt like it hardly had any oil left on it at all.  Although it was cleaner than it would be after using regular chain lube there was some chain clatter as I rotated the rear wheel.  So, I'm back to using the last of my Bel-Ray with Molyphos until I find a worthy substitute.  Not sure what I'm going to do with all the gear oil but I won't be putting it on my chain.


Monday, May 28, 2012

No More DuPont Teflon Chain Lube

This just in from BARF:  DuPont changed the formulation for its Multi-use Teflon Lubricant, which was used by many as a dry chain lube.  It is now no longer fit for use as a motorcycle chain lubricant and Webbikeworld no longer endorses it.  For those who wish to continue using DuPont teflon products on motorcycle chains there is still the "Teflon Chain-Saver" product.  Webbikeworld didn't like it as well.

Some time ago I gave the Multi-use Teflon Lubricant an extended test on the Bandit.  Bandits are hard on chains so they're good for testing chain lubes.  I found that even with frequent cleaning and reapplication it didn't seem to lube my chain very well or prevent wear better than anything else.  However it was clean and didn't fling off which is probably why people like it.  After about 16k miles using only the DuPont lube my chain had a serious kink and needed to be replaced.  So I switched to Bel-Ray with Molyphos, which makes a terrible mess but doesn't need to be reapplied between cleanings.  It seems to protect the chain quite well.  Most people hate it and it too is no longer available, so I'm looking for other alternatives.

Sunday, May 30, 2010

Chain Lubing




After cleaning the chain, make sure the kerosene is dry and apply a thin coat of chain lube. It's best to do this on a warm chain, i.e. right after a ride.

1.) With the bike up on the center stand, rotate the rear wheel while applying chain lube to the outside surface of the rollers.



2.) Apply chain lube to the inside surface of the rollers.



3.) Wipe off any excess, which would otherwise fling all over the bike and make a mess.

Saturday, May 29, 2010

Chain Cleaning

It's a sad fact about commuting on chain-driven bikes that chains are fiddly and require some attention. Bandits seem to be especially hard on chains. In the wet season chain cleaning is a weekly ritual. Otherwise, every two weeks/600 miles. Regular cleaning and adjustment can triple or even quadruple the life of the chain. At 43k miles, my Yamaha FZ1 is still on its original chain.

Time

20 - 30 min

Materials
  1. Kerosene
  2. Can
  3. Old toothbrush
  4. Cardboard
  5. Rags or paper towels
  6. Nitrile gloves



  • Place bike on center stand or rear wheel stand
  • Scrub exposed rear sprocket teeth with kerosene-dipped brush and wipe clean
  • Scrub top, sides, and bottom of chain links, rollers, and plates with kerosene; wipe clean
  • Rotate wheel to expose more dirty sprocket teeth/chain links
  • Repeat
  • Allow to dry, either by going for a short ride or letting the bike sit overnight.
Every so often it's also good to remove the chain guard and scrub the plastic chain slider that protects the top of the swingarm. Rocks and dirt tend to collect there.


Wednesday, May 26, 2010

Mid-week Wet Weather Maintenance

I have a 5-minute maintenance routine which I perform in the evenings if it rains:

1.) Spray a thin coat of WD-40 on the chain and wipe off (this may take more than a few minutes if you don't have a rear wheel stand or center stand). WD-40 will keep the chain from rusting. However it will fling and smell like cat pee when it's hot so it's important to wipe most of it off.

At the end of a rainy week I scrub the chain thoroughly with kerosene and re-lube it.



There is some controversy about using WD-40 on o-ring chains. While I can't guarantee that WD-40 isn't harmful to o-rings, I've been using it for wet-weather maintenance for thousands of miles with no observable damage so far. I replaced my last chain with 20k miles on it and it was still in decent shape. I gave the used chain to a coworker who plans to put it on his GSX-R1000 and run it at triple digits.

2.) Wipe the fork sliders with a clean soft cloth and mild soapy water, rinse and dry. This will help keep dirt out of the fork seals so they last longer.



3.) A conscientious person with a new bike would also probably want to clean off the exhaust pipe and headers to prevent stains and discoloration from baked-on road grime. The Bandit's header pipes are already spotted so I don't worry about it.